Mt. Molelog: Mormon Garments

Mormon Garments

As you know, Bob, temple-going Mormons wear special undergarments. For us godless heathens, finding samples of these is rather difficult.

Thanks to Richard Packham and his currently- not- over- quota website, though, we can all look on in wonder.

Update: I wasn't very clear, was I? By "temple-going", I meant Mormons who had been admitted to the Temple, not Mormons on their way to the Temple at that moment -- once a Mormon puts these on, that's their underwear forever.

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brett b.

actually,garments are very easy to purchase. the mormon church manufactures these underwear under the name beehive clothing. They have retail stores throughout the country, and are also located on or near most temple grounds. look it up, walk in and purchase them. the temple requires a recommend, but buying garments doesnt. mostly, they wont ask questions. they might ask what ward (tell them the 5th ward ) or what stake (tell them the Uphill stake) those dont exist, but you can tell them you are visiting from out of state if they look at you funny. but hell, you should look at them funny, you know what their wearing “under their”
good luck.

2003-05-26 13:09:00

brett b.

2003-05-26 13:09:00

A LDS Girl

I am completely offended that you would post pictures of something sacred and special. The symbolism of the temple garment means a lot to me and I am terribly offended at this website. Obviously, I will not be returning. You should be so ashamed of yourself! This is not the least bit respectful.

2003-08-04 18:18:00

john smith

does the mormon underwear help to discipline young boys and enable the detection and punishment of masturbation?

2003-08-23 17:26:00

Free_Thinker

What a hoot! I had no idea that mormon’s are so brain-washed they actually wear ridiculous underwear “for religious reasons”. HA! Do they drink purple Kool-aid too?.….

2003-09-07 17:28:00

Amy

My roomate and I would just like to thank you for ending our questing interest after the mystical existance of these curious garments. I think the nipple coverings are my favorite part! Though I am genuinely curious about what purpose the knee protection serves. Does anyone know if these are on for life? Like bathing and such??

2003-09-09 17:47:00

Miss Poppy Dixon

I was raised in Mormon country and was told Mormons have to hold onto the underwear while they shower or bathe - they’re really supposed to be forever.

If you’d like to see some hot Catholic Chastity Panties check out my site - and yes, you can take these off, just try not let anyone else take them off.

http://www.misspoppy.com

2003-09-12 17:02:00

starofkahless

When ministers of other faiths wear their ‘peculiar’ collars, or a muslim wears his tunics, or people of jewish faith wear their skull caps.….…no one bats an eye. It is strange to me, that in this era of political correctness, no one will poke fun at an outward display of these faiths, but has a field day with the LDS? Where is the logic and intelligence in that????

2003-09-25 07:07:00

Tyson

To comment on what Miss Poppy said…

There may be some very, very old Mormons who don’t remove their garments while showering or bathing, but they dont be an exceedingly rare exception. I served a two-year mission for the Church in Europe and neither I nor any of my mission companions ever wore them in the shower. (And in the Missionary Training Center, we had shower rooms with open showers, so I can guarantee you no one showered in their garments in there either.)

I stopped wearing garments about 1� years ago and had both two-piece garments as depicted and one-piece (old-style) garments with the step-in neckline. The latter ones were a horrible mistake, and I don’t know how people stood/stand them. The garments come in various materials: cotton, cotton-poly blend, nylon, nylon mesh, and are available in white and also in drab (olive/khaki) for active military personnel.

The knee mark, to answer Amy’s question, is supposed to remind people that at the Second Coming, every KNEE shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ. So it’s more of a spiritual reminder than anything else.

And finally, to answer John Smith’s question, from experience on my mission, even though the missionaries aren’t supposed to masturbate, I think most do and the garment doesn’t exactly stop them. I remember feeling guilty when I would masturbate, so I would usually slip the bottoms off so I didn’t feel like I was desecrating them.

2003-10-01 22:11:00

Tyson

Well, Starofkahless, I think the reason is the sanctimony with which the LDS treat other faiths. The whole “One True Church” thing doesn’t usually sit well with most people. Then when they realize that the LDS temple ceremonies and garment markings are essentially copied from Freemasonry and not “inspired of God” as the LDS claim, most people rightly cluck at the LDS’ foolishness in this area. I mean, it would be one thing to wear strange underwear if God commanded it, but it’s quite another to wear strange underwear because you think God commands it, EVEN THOUGH the evidence is stacked against God having anything to do with it.

2003-10-01 22:17:00

Jake Market

I think it is amusing that everyone will point fingers and laugh at Mormons for not being Christian when these garments were obtained dishonestly. In addition, I don’t often get on the internet, but I couldn’t sleep so I thought I’d see what’s up. I’ve come to realize that it is people that obsess over stuff like this that need to find better things to do with time. I had a Mormon friend at one time and he was fine. Doing this kind of stuff is so rude and disrespectful. Enjoy the diversity of U.S.’s many subcultures…don’t go around poking fun. Stud-Exmormon or whatever it is, needs to find a female to spend the massive amount of free time he obviously has with so he can actually do the name stud justice.

2003-10-05 01:05:00

Jake Market

2003-10-05 01:06:00

Tony

Cults interfere in peoples’ lives where they shouldn’t. There are certain ways you can control a person’s individuality and one of those is by controlling their body. Wearing a tunic or a collar or a yarmulke is a way of identifying yourself with a certain faith. Wearing special underwear (or a burka, even) is a way a religion takes over your identity, making you easier to control and lie to.

2003-10-06 21:08:00

Anonymous

I think it is ridiculous for people to make fun of other people’s religions. Yes, I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I do believe that this is the one true Church. However, I also am a strong believer in tolerance. I have many gay friends, and most of my friends are not Mormon. I do not look down on them because they believe differently. Furthermore, I think it is very hypocritical for people to do such things. America was founded because people were trying to escape religious persecution. I’m glad to see that four hundred and some-odd years later, we’ve moved past that issue. Also, for you that are inquisitive about garments, why don’t you ask a member of the Church? We will tell you about the garments. We won’t show you, because they are sacred, but we’ll explain that they are symbolic. The meaning of them are not to be discussed, as it is disclosed when you go to the temple. Not for reasons of secrecy, but sacredness. They should be worn sacredly as well, never taking them off except for the three s’s: shower, sports, and sex. If anyone has any further questions, I urge them to actually ask a member of the Church. Not one who is no longer active or has been ex-communicated, as they will probably misinform you because they have resentment towards the Church because they do not have enough self-control to live a righteous life, but an actual active member. Also, why not go to a meeting and find out for yourself what it is all about? Are you scared? I have been to other religious ceremonies. If you are that inquisitive that you actually will go to a website like this to find information, you should seek the answer from a credible source.

2003-10-08 20:48:00

moses

I am EXTREMELY curious to find out more and more about the mormons and their beliefs. It is not because I’m thinking of converting, because I am an apostolic/ pentecostal girl who is firm in the doctrine of the apostles considering they actually walked with jesus and that there is wirtten proof and that you can only recieve salvation through repentance (ACTS 2:38) baptism in the name of Jesus (ACTS 2:38 and COL 3:17), recieveing the holy ghost (ACTS 2:4). I am just hoping that someone will give me info!!!! I NEED IT. If someone (maybe an ex-mormon) could post a website or two showing the “behind the scenes” of a mormons walk with their “GOD” I would be really interested. Ihope my letter has not been offensive. I am just a very passionate person looking for answers. So, I apologize in advance if my comment has made you unhappy, because being a christian, I never want to offend anyone.…I just want everyone to know that I LOVE JESUS CHRIST!

2003-10-27 11:36:00

Sven

To the girl in question, I salute your honest inquiry and your faithful walk with the Savior. I recommend going to an actual member of the Church (as opposed to an “ex-mormon”), or go visit a local LDS Church and talk to a missionary or a Church leader, clearly letting them know of the nature of your inquiry. Secondly, get a copy of the Book of Mormon, and read it from the Title Page to the last page prior to the Index. Read it conjunction with your Bible study. As you do, go to the Source, prayerfully asking God, in the name of Jesus Christ, to help you understand what you are reading. The Book of Mormon states that it is from God, and that it testifies of Christ. Ask God Himself, instead of a living human being. You should also understand that the LDS Church declares to the world the Divinity of Jesus Christ and the calling of 12 living Apostles in this day and time, 12 men called just as Peter, James, and John, etc. were called: by God. If you want to read or hear the teachings of current-day Apostles, go to LDS.org and click on the “General Conference” link.
As you probably already know, I am a member of the Church. I witness to you that you will receive answers to your prayers as you earnestly ask, with real intent. I know there is a living Prophet, like Moses or Isaiah, and 12 living Apostles called by God. Go “prove them” and “Hold fast to that which is good” as the New Testament counsels you to do. If I can be of any help, feel free to ask, or go to a local LDS Church, and then ask God.
Good Blessings to you! Sven

2003-10-30 01:23:00

Megan

Girl in question. I am an active member of the LDS faith.

It is a common misconception that LDS members have created their own deity. In fact we strongly believe in the doctorine of the apostles, the atonement baptism by immersion and the gift of the holy ghost.

There is truth in a lot of the religions. The only reason why we refer to the LDS faith as the “only true church” is that it is the only church were the preisthood has been restored. It is hard to believe that heavenly father would only communicate with those from ancient times.

I suggest that you NOT find an ex-mormon who was excommunicated or left for other reasons. They will most likely be bitter and not provide factual information. Call a missionary tell them you are not interested in conversion but would like more information about the church and they will provide it.

As for the garments, they are not oppresive thought controlling devices but rather an outward expression of our beliefs. To indicate that this is cultist and taking away your identity in an attempt to brainwash you is ignorant.

I strongly suggest those of you who are seeking more information on this and other subjects concerning the LDS faith find a more reliable source of information.

2003-11-17 10:08:00

Kitty B

I ended up at this site because I live where it’s cold and I wanted something like long underwear, but that came to the knee, so I could wear them under skirts. Someone told me these exsisted and were called “Mormon underwear”, I thought maybe it was just a name that came about because Mormons tended to wear them or something and that I would link to a store that sold a variety of things, including this knee-length underwear. I don’t want to pose as a Mormon or have to lie to buy them! I’m try to follow “The Four Agreements”, one of which involves always being impecable to your word, even in small matters. My question is: is knee-length underwear forbidden to me? Is there any unMormon Mormon style underwear? hmmmm.…

2003-11-19 05:59:00

Smoochy

Check it! Right! The one true faith is the faith in the redeemer, he, most high, Michael Jackson! And he swear to me on the holy bones of the elephant man that all his peoples should wear these undergarments. Seen? Right. Check it, Bless it, Respect it. Allright.

2003-11-22 14:44:00

Valerie

I am seriously so apalled at the fact that some of you would pose as Mormon to go and buy these underwear. Nicw morals that you don’t have. As for ‘gee I just like them’, knee length underwear is not forbidden to you, but wearing these specific garments made for Mormons is sacreligous and mocks God entirely. I would try long johns but darned if I would know where to get them (I live in Arizona). Or you could go to LDS.org, have some missionaries come give you a message about our church, and you could get baptized, go through the temple, and wear long underwear for life! As to you ex-mormons who are sharing such information that you KNOW you should not be, I will testify at the second coming, of your abominations against promises you made to God, and you won’t be able to hide from His judgement. I know you know this though, and your denial may be what lets you sleep at night, but it will not serve you in the eternities. Religous freedom, free of persecution, is that so much to ask? Apparently so. Everyone is different, and everyone deserves respect.

2003-12-08 02:13:00

Anonymous

You people have nothing better to do than put down the Morman religion? Get a life!!!!

2003-12-08 09:36:00

a very active latter-day saint

to “a girl in question” Our “God” is every one’s God or do you know of another one? Also I am having a problem understanding why anyone one would want to out right lie and go into to a place to purchase garments they have no clue about and have their picture taken in them. What did you gain from that experience? Any one that is an ex-mormon obviously did not understand anything about being a mormon or they would not be an ex-mormon at this time and if they did by chance have some inkling of what it means to be a Mormon and what it means to wear garments, they would in no way be on the internet telling anyone to just go in and lie to purchase them. All the stupid comments made is jest about mormons and garments just make me realize even more how blessed i am to be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and to be worthy to wear the garment by tring to live a good life, to teach my children not to lie, so I can’t lie, and to be the best peron I can. Why wouldn’t anyone want to be the best person they can be.

2003-12-11 19:35:00

a very active latter-day saint

Also, how can Tyson make the comment that the phrase “One true church ” does not set well with most people. Is it just that is doesn’t set well with you or have you done a survey? And why couldn’t God ask us to wear garments as a reminder of the kind of live we want to live and the people we strive to be? Also, to the person who commented that wearing garments is cultish, I guess every sacred emblem is cultish then.

2003-12-11 19:44:00

Kev

If find it intersting that every active member of LDS seems to assume that anyone who willingly or unwillingly left the church would be bitter and resentful. Could it perhaps be that some people just come to believe that another religion fits thier personality and inner spiritual beliefs in a better way? Are men and women treated equally, do they have the same potential to rise in this church? Are other religions embraced for giving thier people a path to spirituality, or shunned for “wrong thinking”. I once asked two young men that visited my farm wether they had come out of concern for my eternal soul, or were trying to raise themselves in the hierarchy of the church. I recieved an angered look and an offer to pray for me as they abruptly left. Shouldn’t the answer have been simple, it was not asked in hostility????

2003-12-15 19:50:00

Faithful LDS Woman

First I would like to say that this is utterly the most offensive website I have ever seen. I stumbled onto it accidently and thought about leaving without dignifying any comment, but I feel a responsibility to say to the maker of it as well as any ex-members of the church adding their irreverent comments, “SHAME ON YOU”!! Mockery of sacred things will bring condemnation from our Father in Heaven on your heads, AND YOU KNOW IT!! Also to reply to “interesting”, I think many people who leave the church ARE bitter and resentful, hence the websites created such as this one. If they were not, why would they go to such lengths to mock the church and frustrate the members with things like this? But I think, to answer your question, if there are people who are ex-members and NOT bitter, therefore they are quiet about it and don’t mock things, then no one hears from them; thus leading to the assumption that most are, do you see what I mean?

2003-12-17 03:39:00

Miss Poppy

In HBO’s recent Angels in America a Mormon couple is seen sitting together on a bed wearing their Mormon underwear. Later, when the husband discovers he’s gay he’s seen at his male lover’s house, after the fact, with his Mormon underwear hanging out of his pants.

I haven’t heard any outcry. Maybe the Mormons are a little slower to anger than the Catholics who seem to walk on glass.

2003-12-19 05:47:00

Anonymous

Thank you, Molelog! I was just curious to see a picture of the Mormon garments, and you provided me with it! I see a VERY BIG DIFFERENCE between “outward show” garments indicating religious affiliation such as yamakas, burquas, or clerical collars, and so forth, which are in open view, and LDS “garments” which apparently aren’t even supposed to be spoken about in non-Mormon company. Gives a whole new meaning to the outmoded term “unmentionables”. Frankly, I wouldn’t have any interest in seeing what garments look like if they weren’t such a secret.
There’s an excellent website run by a former member of the LDS church: www.exmormon.org that gives several interesting facts about the church.
Thank you, too, Miss Poppy, for the link to your website.

#1 - All ex-mormons and those excommunicated are not bitter. Some simply found that the religion was not for them. That is their right. It doesn’t make them a bad person.

#2 - Everyone has the right to believe in their own beliefs, religion, etc. They should not be condemned, belittled, or unnecessarily badgered because they are of a religion that someone else does not believe in or understand. I think compassion and tolerance need to be reinstilled into society.

#3 - Mormons are everywhere. Not just in Utah. Don’t be so dang ignorant.

#4 - While the majority of Utah is still Mormon there are plenty of non-mormons there. But I will agree it is a different culture there. If it bothers you so much - leave.

#5 - Like any religion, Mormonism has hypocrites and bad apples. Don’t judge the religion by the people, judge it by the teachings and beliefs.

2004-01-22 15:14:00

Ev

to those who like the idea of these undergarments becuase they seem warmer than what is usually found at K-Mart or Jordon Marsh - go to http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/prdSell.asp?ProdGroupID=357&DeptID=1236&CatID=1240 And you will see some nice, warm, short sleve knee length unders that will do the trick and not give anyone any ofence.

2004-01-26 07:19:00

mountain meadow

why do mormon under garments have masonic symbols on them

2004-01-26 17:42:00

no name

I was very upset by this website. Correction, there are other states then Utah where Mormons exist. I my self is from Idaho, Yes, there are many Mormon members living there and my Husband is from Germany. Yes there are also many members of the church in Europe. Where do you people get off with the childish behavior? I am proud of my religion and so is my husband. He is a convert from the cathlic church and converted to LDS four years ago and the members in Germany and in the states are just wonderful. So check your facts before you claim that only Mormons live in Utah!

2004-01-28 13:18:00

hank

There are loads of Mormons in Louisville, KY and the ones that lived in my building were always self-righteous jerks. On a longer than usual ride in the elevator one day it was an older widow, Mormon couple, my wife, our son, and myself and the old lady was talking about how she was worried she was going to get a ticket because she couldn’t get her new license plate on her car by herself. The Mormon couple was in too much of a rush to go to grocery shopping to help out so I ended up doing it myself. Hey, just trying to be the good Samaritan atheist over the pretentious cult members. She was nice enough to fix some hot chocolate for me so I’d stay warm while doing it for her. :)

As for the people who give some excuse about not talking about them outside of the “temple” because its sacred or something like that, well, I really am sorry to let you know you’re wasting your life in a cult. Hey, if its brown, smells badly, and comes out my butt chances are its not a Tootsie Roll. Please feel to testify to the lord about what I just said as well.

Its always made me laugh thinking about the holy underwear these people wear. Thanks for giving us a shot to see what the big deal with this stuff is. It’ll be even harder to not laugh at the Mormon’s in my building when I get stuck on the elevator with them now.

2004-02-06 21:05:00

Jack Mormon

At the risk of repeating the obvious, consider that Orthodox Jewish men also wear a special undergarment, the purpose of which is to remind them of certain details in their daily religious observances.

The real question in my mind is why are you all making such a big deal of it? C’mon, get a LIFE! Clothing does not make the person, no matter how much we may be told the opposite.

2004-02-08 15:35:00

Anonymous

sacred YOUR SUCH A GARMENT CRAPPER.… EVERY MORMON SAYS THAT THEY HAVE GAY FREINDS,AND FREINDS THAT ARE NOT MORMON… THATS A LIE THOUGH. SACRED, THATS JUST YOUR WAY OF BEING A REBELIOUS MORMON. YOU WOULD PROBOBLY FREAK OUT IF SOMEONE WAS GAY AND MADE A PASS AT YOU.. ONE THING THAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND “SACRED”(SACRED LIKES TO LOAF IN TEMPLE GARMENTS) IS THAT MOST UTAH GAYS HAVE NEVER DONE THE POOPSTAB BEFORE THEY JUST LIKE TO WEAR TIGHT CLOTHES AND TALK WITH A STUPID SOUNDING LISP… THERE ARE THESE SO CALLED GAYS IN THE CHURCH.. THEY ARE NOT REALLY GAY.. THEY JUST LIKE TO ACT LIKE TURDBURGLARS TO GET ATTENTION BY BEING REBELIOUS SAINTS… I HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE … I WORE A PAIR OF JOSEPH SMITH GARMENTS .. AND I ACCIDENTALY POOPED THEM… NO LIE!!! JOSEPH SMITH IS A FREAKIN JOHNSON STAIN .. HE THINKS THAT HE IS SO SPECIAL BECUASE SOME CRAZY SALAMANDER CAME TO HIM IN A DREAM AND TOLD HIM THAT THE TRUE CHURCH LIES AMOUNG A PILE OF BRICKS BURRIED UNDERGROUND IN THE FOREST.

JOKE: HOW MANY MORMONS DOES IT TAKES TO SCREW IN A LIGHTBULB…

A: NONE. MORMONS DONT SCREW ANYTING.. UNLESS THEY ARE MARRIED OF COURSE.

THESE GARMENTS ARE THE MOST SILLY THING THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.…. MORMONS ARE SILLY… THEY ARE A BUNCH OF WEIRD DUCKS… I HAVE A NOTHER CONFESSION… I WENT TO A MORMON CHURCH , TOOK A DUMP WITHOUT FLUSHING.. THEN I LEFT .. ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR I CUT CHEESE LIKE TEN TIMES.

2004-02-12 10:19:00

TOMMY N AND THE MOSQUITO

JOKE: HOW MANY MORMONS DOES IT TAKES TO SCREW IN A LIGHTBULB…

A: NONE. MORMONS DONT SCREW ANYTING.. UNLESS THEY ARE MARRIED OF COURSE.

2004-02-12 10:19:00

Anonymous

sacred, your a garment loafer.… your a freakin johnson stain just like joe .. joe s. is a pap smear and a poonis whore… if i could go back in time and kick just one persons ass it would have to be joe s… joe is a total pud.. every mormon says that they have a gay freind or they have a freind that is not mormon.. if somone gay came up to you sacred, and that person tried to put the moves on you, you would totaly be offended by that… you would cry to joseph.… the thing you have to realize about gays in utah is that the utah gays are just silly prisssy tight clothes lisp speaking idots… none of the people in utah that iknow that say that they are gay have actualy ever boffed the poopstab.… i bought a pair of temple garments and i accidentaly took a dump in them (total acident)…

how many mormons does it take to screw in a lightbulb????

none,mormons dont screw anything… unless they are married.

a freind told me joseph smith had intercourse with a hand handcart… is that true…

i was watching genral confrence and i took a dump … when i looked in the toiled to see my creation i saw joe s. he told me that the church is true…

i like to eat pizza!!!! oops i just loafed

2004-02-12 12:41:00

annonymous

I have never been so appauled by what I’m reading here. Just becuase someone is mormon, doesn’t make them a bad person. We are all around, and you don’t even know it. You should not judge something that you only hear about. Unless you really try to understand and feel what’s being taught to you, then don’t judge. We are all humans and we are expected to be different. There are people, in different parts of the world who still practice cannibalism; people who take their relatives dead body out of their grave to dance with them on their anniversary.…are you all going to discriminate against them too? Why don’t you write a book and tell everyone how to act, what to wear and what race they have to be and what religion they have to be so they won’t hear all this junk that you people put out. I’m disgusted and outraged in the worst way. Instead of hating on each other, we need to embrace each other and love everyone. Joseph Smith was a wonderful man, who didn’t know what church to join, so he recieved revalation from God when he went into the grove to pray. These people are real… How can you people be so crude as to say you buy garments and do bad deeds in them and then you go into churches and cause bad deeds there as well. These garments have special meaning to us. A lot of people don’t understand and that’s o.k.. Our Churches are a sancuary to us. Find it in your heart to stop this talk and to leave us be in our freedom of religion. We love who and what we are and we are proud people. It just hurts to read these things that people say and do.

2004-02-15 20:39:00

SS

To the last writer… I was once a moron, oops I man mormon. Once I found out what the so-called church really taught (ie. God living on the planet Kolob, God having physical sex with the virgin Mary, and the many arrest of Joseph Smith the first prophet for fraud) I left the church. Lets face it, if you’re in the orginization all is great, but an outsider is just that. The church referes to the Catholic Curch as the great and abominable whore. Nich loving church, huh? Lets face it, the doctrine was made up by a money hungry 13 year old and the fools around him believed it. Finally, a question that I always had that no Mormon could answer is… if Joseph Smith (the 1st Mormon prophet) was told by God as he states in his 1st vision account, “not to join any of the churches because their hearts are far from him(God),” Why did he join the Congregationalist Church?

2004-02-17 13:29:00

SS

To the last writer… I was once a moron, oops I mean mormon. Once I found out what the so-called church really taught (ie. God living on the planet Kolob, God having physical sex with the virgin Mary, and the many arrest of Joseph Smith the first prophet for fraud) I left the church. Lets face it, if you’re in the orginization all is great, but an outsider is just that. The church referes to the Catholic Curch as the great and abominable whore. Nich loving church, huh? Lets face it, the doctrine was made up by a money hungry 13 year old and the fools around him believed it. Finally, a question that I always had that no Mormon could answer is… if Joseph Smith (the 1st Mormon prophet) was told by God as he states in his 1st vision account, “not to join any of the churches because their hearts are far from him(God),” Why did he join the Congregationalist Church?

2004-02-17 13:31:00

Messenger from The TRUE Lord

If you read the Bible, you can only come to the following conclusions (as stated in mmmm.org):

I do not believe that God is a glorified human being, or that men can become Gods (Psalm 90:2; Isaiah 43:10).

I cannot belong to a church which denigrates Jesus Christ by claiming He and Lucifer are spirit-brothers.

I have found Joseph Smith does not meet the biblical requirements of a true prophet according to Deuteronomy 13:1-3 and Deuteronomy 18:20-22.

I no longer believe the Book of Mormon is the “most correct book on earth.”

I cannot, in good conscience, accept the Doctrine and Covenants as inspired by God in light of the many corrections and errors it contains.

I also find it impossible to embrace the Book of Abraham as being authentic when credible Egyptologists have agreed that Joseph Smith’s “translation” of his papyri was completely erroneous.

I cannot belong to a church which claims a priesthood that is not based upon biblical principles.

Since discovering that salvation is a free gift purchased through Christ’s death on the cross (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5), I have experienced what Jesus called the “peace that passes all understanding.” I now have the assurance that when I die I will inherit eternal life (1 John 5:13).

You MUST leave the LDS church now!

2004-02-17 14:52:00

sasha

I am so offended and curious reading some of these letters. Frist of all I am upset with the lengths of dishonesty that some people will go to. I was not raised with any sort of religious background. I have seen the types of lives that can happen when people choose to live only for the worldy things. Both my parents drank everynight and I was ‘fortunate’ enpough to see the effect it had on me and my siblings. I swore during high school to never let anything have that much control ove my life. The reason I joined the church is that it matched perfectly with the direction I wanted my life to take. I was encouraged to go to further my education, not to drink, not to be saexually active, to plan a budget to help me manage my money. Now I am happily married and have been for five years. I have a three year old daughter and am proud of the future I am preparing for her. The Temple is a sacred place if any of you have read even the Bible you would know that, the garment is a sacred thing and if nothing els it helps us to dress more modestly, if you do not understand what goes on there then ask someone credible and not someone who knows someone’s cousins sisters aunt.
- Sasha

2004-02-18 14:18:00

Tamara

If what the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in is not true than why all the oposition.. I have found that those things that are true, Satan will and has over the years confused the minds of many great people. That is why little is spread upon the face of the earth concerning that of other religions. There is nothing to fear, for their show not the way home.

2004-02-20 21:56:00

James Baroi

Please let me know details about mormon garments.

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2004-02-24 11:19:00

James Baroi

2004-04-08 21:58:00

What's the deal?

Sounds like there are some angry and disturbed people posting here… I’m sure that you all have your reasons for being upset and offended by the church (or maybe no resentment at all [nice to see some not bitter people out there]), but you have to remember that it is still run by HUMANS who happen to make mistakes every day like everyone else. No mormon ever claimed to be perfect (not even Joseph Smith), but they’re trying their best to live good and righteous lives, which isn’t easy to say about a lot of the ex-mormons and hardcore christians that I’ve met. Jesus didn’t die for you so that you could sin, he did it because he knew you would. People who think otherwise seem to me to be like those kids who do all they can to tick their parents off just to see how much they can get away with, or those who when they recieve a beautiful and thoughtful gift just throw it aside because they can’t appreciate what’s been done for them.
I agree that there are some mormons who seem way too extreme, and preach hellfire and damnation, but that’s just their method (like a lot of preachers form other churches!) So as far as mormons go with not liking homosexuality, they can be just as misunderstanding as any other person. To think that mormons are so bad as far as that goes is ignorant, because are “christians” out there who will go and beat up someone for being that way. I do have gay friends, and ones who aren’t mormon, no lies. Mormons do “tolerate” people and differences. I personally struggled an extremely rough 20 years with whether or not I was gay. I know that you can’t help feeling the way you do, and you say that you can’t chose how you are, but you can. That doesn’t mean that you can stop feeling gay feelings, or having those thoughts, but you can chose not to act on them. If you knew much about mormon doctorine you’d know that mormons strive to be as perfect as we can to honor god and the gift that Jesus gave to us. These bodies are a test for us, and with any other gift, or art form, you strive to make it all that you can… to perfect it. This life is an art and gift. We have souls that are just living for a time in bodies made of clay, but we have emotions and desires that drive it, and they drive us to do sin. Even then though, those emotions are still chemical reactions in these bodies. Do you think that you had those drives before you had a body? What would be the purpose of that if you did?… Maybe this is the reason mormons seem so extreme? They believe in that we can achieve much more than we think we can, and don’t submit to the desires of these shells. What is it they say - the siirit is willing but the FLESH IS WEAK?…

It’s pretty sad that people make such a huge deal about garments. I just saw someone pay $415 on ebay for a top and bottom! Pretty sad since we mormons who wear them only pay something like $4 a piece. Everyone needs to wear underwear don’t they? These are cheaper than the $10 pair of boxers I bought to wear while I’m in the shower :P!

To “I was once”, it sounds like you talked with someone who had their own conjectures (not taught doctrine [even though it might be in a church published book]) about God having actual physical sex with Mary. That sounds like the story of how Zeus begat Hercules. Yes, Jesus is a physical son of God, but I doubt that the creator of the universe would have to resort to such crude methods to bring about his purpose. After all, the bible still refered to her as a virgin didn’t it? And as for the Catholic chruch being the whore of all the earth, the b.o.m. never said that, only sunday school teachers did. Growing up, I always witnessed someone being corrected who referred to the catholic church as that. And haven’t you ever done something no one else understood? How long had it been since Joseph had the vision that he shouldn’t join? There were a lot of church movements and whatnot going on, so perhaps he was just curious as to what they were saying, so he had to sign up to keep going.

To Logic, yeah brother Joseph did shoot at the mob, but that’s because they were just that. A prison guard snuck him and the other mormons in guns so that they could protect themselves, because the jail keep knew they were going to be attacked. That same jail keep moved him into the upstairs bedroom, and tried to make him more comfortable because he and his wife like them and respected them so much if I remember correctly. The other prison guards were actually in on his martyr with the mob because they knew they were coming. They loaded their rifles with blanks to seem as though they had at least tried to stop it. Evidence does seem to show that he did have that printer’s press burned down because it was going to print those things, but all of the people from the nighboring towns hated him and the other mormons, so they were just looking for something to take him to court on. The incident in which he was tarred and feathered came from that press burning. Some men got together and broght a doctor with them to castrate Joseph, but when the men had him pinned down, the doctor’s heart was turned and he couldn’t do it.

And to garment crapper boy, …?!!! Sounds like you need to see a doctor if you can’t keep your bowels under control. Maybe some depends would help? Then again, if your b.m.’s talk to you…? By the way, the Salamander letters were a fraud that the chruch had bought into. But again, they are men and they make mistakes. It is something to be tricked, but in comparison with outrightly disobeying God like Jonah did, it’s not that big of a deal. The bible would have to be 100 times bigger to get in all of thier mistakes and conditional prophecies.

2004-04-12 15:44:00

Anonymous

It’s not offensive to say that Lucifer was Jesus’ brother. That would mean that we aren’t individuals at all. If your sibling was the anti-christ it doesn’t mean that you are too.

2004-04-12 18:22:00

sybil

It’s rather unfortunate that not just one person, but an entire group honestly believe that gigantic underwear will protect them from evil. I wear sexy Victoria’s Secret underwear and if my man gets a bone jobbie looking at me I believe it to be nothing but a heaven send. To all of the Mormans that were offended by this web page: Isn’t it sacreligious to playing on the internet anyway?? Leave the internet to us evils. Thank You

2004-04-16 11:37:00

Anonymous

To all of you bitching and complaining that there are hateful and hurtful comments on this page, you need to remember what freedom of speech is all about. The Mormon-protectors here are obviously practicing freedom of religion, so how about letting others practice their personal, protected right of freedom of speech?! If you don’t like what you read, leave. Mormonism is by far the most bizarre cult/religion I’ve come across and I am shocked by how many people are brainwashed and protect it’s practices and beliefs. I won’t tell you what to believe, so I don’t appreciate you telling me or anyone else what we’re allowed to say.

2004-04-19 16:17:00

TRUTH

OK,
1. Other religions have physical Symbols of thier beliefs, I mean the collar/cross of christains, or is that catholics? The little hat that jewish people wear, and the stuff that voodoo priests have. Well, mormons, or Latter Day Saints have day jobs. So instead of wearing a collar all day, they wear white underwear to symbolise purity of spirit and thier religion. So the only way to tell is by observing how (this applies to REAL LDS) honest they are with thier fellow humans. No difference to me.
2. Joseph Smith was unlawfully arrested and later murdered in carthage jail by an angry mob, he did not die on a deathbed and claim that he was a fraud.
3. Find me one person that was visited personally by God or Jesus and was NOT later murdered by scared people. I haven’t found any.
4. You nasty people, say whatever you want, Truth will never change, whatever it may be.
5. I have spoken to many people who have had near death experiences, some were actually dead and came back. An astonishing number of them (read: most) stated they felt at least a great and powerful loving presence, some saw spirits of deceaced loved ones. So there is an afterlife. Mormons preach that there are many levels of afterlife, such that everyone will be happy where they end up. People who try thier very best to be kind and loving people will be closer to god, murderers and such will be further from God. Now call me crazy but that sounds logical and right.
6. Whoever it was writing that black skin is a curse, if you had kept reading it was gods way to let everyone know who was not being nice. later the curse was REMOVED FROM THE PEOPLE. Dark skinned people nowadays are not cursed, the book of mormon is a book of history, same as the old and new testament. The only difference is that the B.O.M. was written on a different continent. The indians didn’t suddeny appear out of the trees when columbus found america. DUH!
7. A lot of people say that mormons are brainwashing or forcing people to do things. This is the worst lie I have heard so far. Agency was given to mankind to decide who and what they wanted to be and do. Yes there are strict regulations to enter the Temple because it is believed the spirit of god is very strong there, so, you only want people strong in faith to enter because you know they will not defile god’s ‘cottage on the lake’ or blast fart bombs inside. They will be respectful.
8. Is it so hard to believe Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers? many families have a ‘black sheep’ in them
9. When Joseph translated the book of abraham, a copy of the translation and original script was sent to an expert to analyze. The expert certified that it was the most correct translation of egyptian he had ever seen. When he found out that the article was translated by a (uneducated) young man who’d had a vision of god, he tore up the certificate stating that visions and such did not happen any more. Even though the translation was better than he could ever have done with his many years of schooling (jealous?).
10. Is it that bad to think you can be saved by being an honest and rightous, law abiding citizen? Thou shalt not kill is a law, people still have the freedom to ignore it, and nowadays frequently do. Mormons are taught to be honest and rightous, law abiding citizens ALL the time. Not just when they go to church.
11. The WORD OF WISDOM that Mormons follow is designed to keep the body healthy and reads as such;(D&C 89) The Lord promises spiitual and physiocal blessings for obeying the word of wisdom. In the word of wisdom the lord commands us not to take the following substances into our bodies: Alcoholic drinks, tobacco, tea and coffee. Anything harmful that people purposefully take into thier bodies is not in harmony with the word of wisdom. this is especially true of illegal drugs, which can destroy those who become addicted to the. stay entirely away from them. do not experiment with them. the abuse of perscription drugs also leads to destructive addiction. The lord declares the following foods are good for our bodies: vegetables and fruits, which should be used with prudence and thanksgiving. the flesh of beasts and the fowls of the air which is to be used sparingly. grains such as wheat, rice, and oats, which are the staff of life.
Now I want to point something out here, smoking was only known to be dangerous (scientifically proven to be dangerous) about 200 years later. And who hasn’t seen the effects that drugs and alcohol have on people? not pretty (i wanna get drunk so i can beat my wife and kill people driving, then get away with it).
12. No matter how evil or nasty you have been, GOD will answer your prayers if you truly truly desire help to overcome your problems. After you pray, wait for an answer. The most common sign is the feeling that your chest is on fire, but no pain.

Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven

Peace be with you all
I forgive all of you out there who have insulted my beliefs for any reason. I know that I am the best person i could be, I am not perfect. I try not to be better than others, but try to be like jesus. He is the one that counts, not the money your neighbour makes, or how much stuff you have, or how many girls you have had. In the end, everyone will get what they deserve. God knows all and remembers all and hears all, He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and ending. and he loves all his children equally. Repentance is something between you and God, not your friends, why brag to them? I truly hope that I have made your life a little better by writing this. Bless you all, even the guy who set my neighbours car on fire last night.

2004-04-22 21:53:00

hmm

Some have suggested that Mormons wear �Magic Underwear�, well the magic doesn�t work unless the wearer is faithful to covenants and keeps the commandments.

2004-04-22 22:00:00

Just a by stander

I find it strange that people should put so much effort in “bad mouthing” a church that basically stands for the good and wholesome things in this world.

2004-04-23 09:14:00

just a comment

To the mormons, its not that we want to mock your religion, is just that we want you to open your eyes to the truth. You say we must go to a church member to ask them about the church, but two thing might happen:

1. They will tell us lies, since all they know are lies.
2. If you want to protect something (even if it is not
true), you will lie, since it is all you have bee told,
what you are deffending is all you know, but haven�t put
to the test the Bible vrs. the BOM, as it is stated by
one of your former presidents.

For example, how can you say you will wear some garments (physiclly) when the Bible tells us to wear everyday God�s amrour? Why would God change from telling us to wear an armour for the soul to wear some “holly” underwear, that if you to the beach, for example, you might be un-protected.

Don�t fall into anger, don�t get mad, just study the Bible MORE, and you will find the answer!!

(It is more heretic to say that God was once a man than talking about the garments, read isahia 43:10 and on)

Also, how can you say there are more than one god? God is God to ALL things (visible and invisible according to the Bible)

So, first make some research for information outside your church (or even compare your own books, the ones that contradict each other) and you will find the truth.

and one last thing, you don�t need Joseph Smith�s permition to get into heaven, that�s JESUS�S thing to do!!!

2004-04-26 12:00:00

REAL TRUTH

Dear truth…

you stated that God is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, right?
so how can God be that if your religion states that there are more gods than all the plants; that your god once was a man (I´m saying your god since my God has no beginnig nor end);that when men die, they become gods of their own planet;etc.…

God is God, and he is the same today, yesterday and forever!!!, Glory to his holly name

2004-04-26 12:08:00

THE REAL TRUTH

Just to let you know, mormons can�t get mad when christians reveal THE truth, as well as mormon mistakes and/or lies. (This according to one of their prophets who asks people to prove mormonism with the Bible; to put mormonism to test) I want you to ease up a little bit and read the following, not with anger, but with an open heart and let yourself choose what�s right.

1.why would God give revelations to a person who doubts
God�s existance?

2.why would someone join a church, when has been warned by
God not to?

3.In what mind it can be held that God once was a mortal
man, who died and progressed and got married to thousands
of virgins and was commandes to rule this planet, when
God�s ONLY word (The Bible) says God is the Alpha and
Omega, the beginning and the end.…THAT�S THE BIGGEST
HERECY!! (and j. Smith saying that the Lord was his right
hand man?!?!?) Give me a break!!

4.How can mormons say that Adam�s sin was a good thing,
because it let us progress? Hello!! we were supposed to
have been created to God�s image.….in perfection!! If
something is perfect, how can it progress?

5.Joseph Smith has been the biggest liar in the whole
world. I could come out with a book, tell a couple of
my friends that I was commanded to translate it (and if
they don�t believe me, I can convince them) and create
a new religion.…Mormonism believes more on what Joseph
Smith says, than what God has to say (read Galatians
1:6-8).

6.Can�t you see the constant changes on mormon doctrine?
(poligamy, color people being cursed, 1990 temple
ceremony, document hiding, BOM changes (over 3850),
Masonry plagiarism, etc.)

To mormon people:
We Christians love you more than your own co-religious friend, since we want you to know the truth (and still you get mad at us!!)
I invite you to do some research about your own church, and if necessary, read some of the material you name anti-mormon; check out the journal of dicourses, and many literature there is and you will get convinced that we people don�t need a religion for our salvation, we just need Jesus Christ in our hearts, and He will clean us of all our sins (by his blood all sins are washed away, except denying the HolySpirit)…Hey, Read the Bible, I know J. Smith tranlated his own version (one that would let him convince people about the BOM)

Please pray, not for the “burning in the bossom”, but for Christ coming to you heart and life, tell Him how sorry you are for all your sins…Please, for you eternal life do so.
I will pray for your spiritual eyes to open , so you can see the light.

In Christ.
ME

PS.
Us people have body, spirit and soul; three parts, but still we are one, So is God, He is the Father, the Son and the Holly Spirit but He is ONE. Not one in a porpuse, but ONE AND ONLY ONE GOD.
If you accept He being three gods in one porpuse, you are accepting there are more than one God (and there is only one God) We cannot become gods. God is God of both the visible and the invisible. He is God of everything there is.
Contact me at mormon_questions@yahoo.com

2004-04-26 17:08:00

wannaBmormon

I cant believe how much people bad mouth the LDS Church. Yes, I just capitalized the C. I know, as well as many other people know, that everyone is going to do what they beleive in. TO EACH HIS OWN!!! Let people believe what they want to believe. Everyone will find out on judgement day who was right and who was wrong. Until then, cool your jets! It doesnt matter if Joe Bob down the street wears garments and attends the temple every month, or week, or day! It doesnt matter if Mary Lou who lives next door to him thinks its weird. In the end, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, doctrine, and beliefs. As far as the picture on the top of the page goes…notice that the faces are hidden. This is a sign of cowardness. Its like “ok, i’ll mock God, as long as no one knows I’m doing it” how messed up is THAT?!?!?! Please people, dont degrade someone just cuz their beliefs are different than yours. THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE, EVEN THE MORMONS! God loves everyone, and thats that. How ever you wanna go about feeling God’s love, is up to you. But its all the same in the end.

2004-04-29 11:44:00

marilynhanson

All you people are all good. I don’t get down and funky with boys that wear knickers anyway. Hey you know there are lots of religions out there and they are all cool-its good that you all have some sort of belief system and care about something. At least you all have thought about it and the issues man. So its all good as long as you guys don’t use religion to run airplanes into towers in the name of your true god you know, now thats wacked. Don’t go martyring yourself for some politico-god thing, you dig?

2004-04-29 21:34:00

theDude

Who really gives a shit. I’m an exmormon and those garments were very comfy. I wish I hadn’t thrown mine away.

Religions are all very goofy, not just the mormons.

2004-05-06 23:19:00

Sara

I am really affended that someone has so much time on there hands to look down apond a religon. All i have to say to you is get a life. You are disrespectful by having picture of people wearing garments I hope one day you will learn.

2004-05-07 12:49:00

Mormon Girl

I Want everyone here to knoe that my Dad Is the Bishop of my ward and I have active in the church if you have a questions that you need answered so you dont have to sit around on you butts all day long and say gad things about mormons at least if you are going to do it make sure you have the right info. I understand that not eeryone in the world believe the same thing but we dont beleve in having sex before married but you all do it and we dont sit around all day and talk about how all the non members have sex, drink, and i could go on for year. I have some news for you for you get off your fat Butts and do something with your life you are going to miss out on all the good things if you sit around and put down other religons no matter what anyone says no there will always be a church and we will alyaws believe in the same thing. GET A LIFE. and remember if you have any questions my dad will be happy to answer.

2004-05-07 13:03:00

Jim

Mormonism is NOT a religion..It is a cult. Joseph Smith was NOT a prophet, He was an evil man like David Koresh or Jimmy Jones. I do NOT respect Cults, only religions. Mormonism is no more a a religion than islam. Islam was started because Ishmael hated Jews. Joseph Smith Created a “religion” so he could fornicate with many women. Do not Kolob-erate with these crack-pots, it is a one way ticket to hell

2004-05-10 16:20:00

Kim P.

Nice underwear, it looks very warm. It probably also helps to ensure a dignified dresscode because you wouldn’t want it to stick out of your clothes. I think that mormons are some of the nicest people that I’ve ever met. I read an interesting book called “Secret Ceremonies” by Deborah Laake - one woman’s experience of what Mormon life was for her. It contains an overview of the secret temple rituals she went through when she was sealed to her husband. This book is NOT what I would consider to be an accurate representation of Mormon life and shouldn’t be taken as such. It reflects one woman’s bad decisions. Wherever secrets are kept people are going to ridicule the unknown. Temperance my friends! Mormon or not, we are all people who are capable of doing great good in this world, so quit your ranting and go volenteer at a soup kitchen! I am not a Mormon and never will be unless I am made one after death by my decendants (a very real possibility- TAKE NOTE you Mormon bashers, you could be too!!!!) but I do believe they are wonderful people and should be respected just as all people are respected as the beautiful individuals that they are. Cheers!

2004-05-12 10:41:00

to mormon girl

if your dad is the bishop, he should punish you for your attitude. NO RELIGION WILL EVER SAVE YOU.….ONLY JESUS CHRIST...read romans, and hebrews.
Read if you want the book of mormon.…there it says that God was not happy with david�s and solomon�s polygamy. Read some material.….J. Smith married 14 year old girls…(HOW SICK)He even marry married women… but off course, your church will deny it …why? because they want your money and they want to be the “big church”. NO RELIGION WILL EVER SAVE YOU.…NONE!!!!
I just hope you get to know the real Jesus …the one who is God, not the one who is satan�s brother.…All you have to do is invite him into your heart.….He will sure come to you.…I pray for all you members (as it was a social club) so God will have mercy of you, and not let you die in sin.…..read the bible.….IT DOES HAVE POWER!!! it has RHEMA, that is spiritual food, it has THEUSNESTUS (maybe misspelled) and it means Divine breath.….and that, is the Holly Spirit. You cannot be saved over a “feeling” or “burning in the bossom”. Salvation is REAL, and it can only come by Jesus.….not Jo Smith. Examine Jesus�s attitude, and compare it with Jospeh�s. Jesus was loving caring, but joseph just came to judge and get rich and fornicate. How come men be poligamists (This teaching still is in D&C)and women have to accept it? HOw come men be “gods” of their own planet.….(be very carefull with this teaching, since there is ONLY ONE GOD...also BOM says so)and women birth machines.…..procreate to fill a planet…please.…please…please.….
really think, not just believe what you are told.….please…for your own life.
God is REAL. GOD is ONE. GOD is perfect, so He cannot progress.….since HE IS PERFECT.

2004-05-12 11:02:00

Me

That’s right, no religion will save you. Only Jesus can. Mormons know that and they don’t expect their salvation to come from Joseph Smith. He was only a man, so he cannot grant us that. But he was a prophet who brought the origional church back to the earth through the Lord’s command. That, we believe is something which must be followed. The Lord had his church set up throughout the Bible (which mormons most assuredly do use!), and through the fullness of that organization his salvation will be received in fullness.
Everyone will be saved, but there has to be more to it than just believing. If the theory is right that men are only saved based on professed belief of Jesus, then people like Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. will be saved along with us if they did so. People would argue that because of what they had done, they couldn’t be saved, but if they prfoessed, then why not. If salvation comes through faith alone, it doesn’t matter what you do! Mormons believe in working hard, and I’ve seen that they do much more than pretty much all of the other professed Christians do to be righteous. There is truth in everything, but maybe more so in certain places than others. That’s all they’re saying. They don’t claim to be the only ones to have the truth, but they do believe that they have the entire truth.

Joseph Smith did marry a young girl, but two things need to be considered. Back then 16 years old was when girls started to get married. Now most people are well in their twenties before they even consider it. Some girls even get married now at 16, and in some cultures it was and still is 14. How is that sick when it may very well not have been a big deal in their culture? Even with their lives as simple as they were, they were a heck of a lot more grown up, mature and wise than most of the people thier age are now. So 14 year olds could have been very grown up and able to make their own choices then. When you mention this example you should know the whole story. I won’t pretend to, but I’m sure people love to give this as an example like they do of the one woman he told must marry him or be damned by God. They like to leave out however that that one woman argued with Joseph and told him that God would have to give her a sign if it was really what he wanted. She was angry and didn’t at all believe it. Joseph was glad that she questioned, and so he promised her that God would let her know by the morning. He left, and she prayed and prayed until finally she was given an answer. When she left her home the next morning, Joseph was wiating outside because he knew she had recieved those answers from God- she knew that was supposed to marry him, and he knew it too! He knew that God would answer her, because it was a commandment from God that he should ask her!

What’s everyone’s hang up with Jesus being Satan’s brother. There has to be evil. Without it there is no good. It’s the same way the other way around. For good to exist there has to be evil. It doesn’t have anything to do with Jesus’ character. Only someone who had dwelt in true and prue goodness would be capable to fall so far. Satan did dwell with God, and he knowingly challanged him. So he fell and became the Devil.

How do you know if something is right or not? You can rely on logic… but then logic tells us that anything the Bible teaches, and the stories about Jesus and God are ridiculous. There is no evidence, and science points to other explinations and reasonings. Nothing like that happens now, so how could it have in the past? How would you know then? The same way you know not to touch fire- you can feel it! What’s the purpose of the Holy Spirit if he can’t touch your soul to tell you what’s right and what’s not? You could see the most wonderful things, or the most awful, but without emotion you would would forget it just like that! That’s why we have emotions. We need to connect the trials and experiences of this life somehow so that we learn and grow from them. Even if God himself came down and told you to believe him, if you didn’t have that “burning of the bosom” you’d simply forget it and move along.

Mormons don’t believe that they’ll inherit planets. We believe that God is our Father, Jesus is our Savior, but our big brother still, and that there is more in store for us than to give praises to God forever and ever. What is the purpose of that? God doesn’t progress in knowledge or in any of the ways we understand, but his glory can be added to. His JOY can be added to. The family unit on this earth is a type of things in Heaven, just like the flood was a type of baptism. If the goal for a man and a woman is to become parents together, to have and raise children well and justly, and then to eventually see them become parents themselves, how is that such a rediculous idea for life in Heaven. God will still be our Father and our Creator, but he wants to see us progress and become like Him. And just as parents in this would gain joy and happiness in the success of their children, so does he. He is our only God, and reason stands that there is more to this suffering and pain than just to loaf around and give glory to become nothings.

Women are just as important in this church as men are. Each has their purpose though. Women aren’t baby machines, they are what truly makes a man a man. Just as a man truly makes a woman a woman. They help eachother to grow and become the best that they can be. They become one in purpose, neither greater or more important than the other. That is the purpose of marriage, and the way God set things up to be. Just as we grow in this life, we can become perfect in the next through Jesus’ sacrifice.

2004-05-18 14:40:00

KATE lOUISE RYANS

As it happens those are really warm, fetching AND comfortable, but then again saying that, I am a pruse so there we are

2004-06-01 07:09:00

grsghsrhgr

go to hell mormons

2004-06-03 18:38:00

Bobbi

I have never understood the fascination with our holy garments. I am a member of this church, and I truly find it offensive that you have posted a picture of these sacred priesthood garments. I am more sickened that most of you will waste a lifetime of energy persecuting that which you do not believe. Why dost thou kick against the pricks? These garments do not mean anything whatsoever to the non-members, so why worry? They are extremely sacred to temple-worthy individuals, and very symbolic of our beliefs. Do not worry so much about it, and worry more about why priests are molesting little boys, persecute them. Don’t persecute people because of their underwear. Or persecute to other people that claim to be of God, yet they slaughter their own people. Just some food for thought. I would love to answer questions that are truly directed for answers, and not for slander.

2004-06-04 20:42:00

Heathen_Bob

In reply to the post “SHAME”, posted by “Faithful LDS women”
Ok if I’m going to have Judgment brought down upon my head because i said something that you don’t like about “Sacred UNDERWEAR” well then send me right to hell because that is in no way or means a just action on God’s behalf YOU PSYCHOTIC BITCH!

and you mormons are insane

2004-06-07 10:25:00

Teresa Panayiotou

I dance totally nude at a Deja Vu in Michigan and I would like to know if I become a Mormon would this be incapable with my occupation? Dancing for me isn’t so much a career
choice as it is a way to make good easy money in the interim.

I can’t imagine dancing with that underwear (pictured) though! Uggh. My boyfriend Adam thinks that it is kinky
so maybe just maybe?

Teresa Panayiotou
Detroit Michigan

2004-06-08 16:59:00

Joseph W. Blow, Jr.

What difference does it make if the undies are ugly? I don’t figure they’ll show them to me anyway. Most of them seem to be too dumpy to look good in a boyshorts and a demi-bra anyway. All that lime Jell-o and fruit punch, I guess.
Mormonism, like ALL religions, is a cult founded upon nonsense and superstition, and they all have silly symbols and such. It’s part of the brainwashing process.

2004-06-14 16:31:00

Creeping Jesus

1: There is no evidence whetsoever for the existence of a god.

2: people who believe in a god are being suckered by religious leaders into following something for which there is no evidence.

3: people who wear ridiculous clothes for something whose existence cannot be proved deserve to be laughed at.

2004-06-16 06:37:00

Kevin Blankenship

I would just like to when you think about it every body is insane. The mormons, Christans, Buddists,jews, Atheusts. They all have there own weird little thing and thats what makes life great. Some christans have there little pay to be forgiven thing. Jews have there little happy hats. Buddests can sleap crossleged upwards while humming uuummmmm. Atheusts have there little message boards so they van tell all the other atheusts that they are smarter than every one. And then we have my happy underwear. So Its all good.

2004-06-16 08:49:00

Em

Okay, to the dude who says that Mormons who say that they have gay friends are lying…that�s kind of dumb. I am a member of the church and my best friend in the whole world is gay. I love him so much and would do anything for him. I am a convert, and I have only been in the church for about a year. I am the only member in my family, so I was not raised in a church family. But you know what? The same morals are there. I love this church, and all I can do is shake my head in disgust at some of your uneducated generalized comments. My suggestion to you people is to learn a little about what you are criticizing before criticizing it. Lets have an example…I cant really criticize, say, Jehovah witnesses or Catholics because I don’t know enough about those groups. That, and I have a little thing called consideration for my fellow man.
Also.… I find it terribly amusing when people tell me that I’m in a cult. It’s even better when they say I’ve been brainwashed. Right. Brainwashed. I actually was the one who initiated my conversion, because I felt a very deep respect for the kindness and love that I found in other members of the church, and when I learned more about it, I found out that many of the core beliefs were the same as beliefs I had had my entire life. So don’t tell me I’m brainwashed. Also…anyone who is going to take gossip and secondhand information, as fact is very stupid indeed. Why don’t you ASK a member of the church about stuff? Its not as if all of us want to ensnare you. Take me for instance…It’s not that big a deal for me if you don’t want to join the church. That�s your choice. All I can do is tell you what I know. Personally, I really don’t like people who start talking about ANYTHING they know next to nothing about. That goes for politics, science…anything! Do some research! If you were writing a paper in English class about something would you go to a personally owned web journal or whatever this is to get your info? Didn’t think so. Well, I do hope the best for all of you…anti or member, purple or green, catholic or Jew. I love everybody and just want to see the population get a little smarter. Find better recourses

2004-06-16 19:15:00

Em

You really suck for exploiting things that others see as sacred.

2004-06-18 22:51:00

Brie

I find it extremely interesting that there are so many people insisting EMPHATICALLY that excommunicated/former members of the LDS church will almost certainly lie to you about the practices and beliefs. It seems to me that you have more to be scared about in that they would most likely tell the TRUTH. I urge everyone to read the Bible…beginning to end, New and Old Testaments…then try to even START to swallow the book of Mormon. (This from an atheist, so I’m not swayed by the normal religious biases) Anyone with half a brain will find so many contradictions within the first 30 minutes that it will be completely useless to go on. As for the “disrespect” issue…get over it. You must have realised when you joined your elitist cul— church that someone, SOMEWHERE, was going to spill your little secrets. Get over it.

2004-06-24 21:30:00

I love being a heathen!

I only made it through half of the comments here. I am infinitely glad that I do not have to live my life by an religon, and I discovered that the great thing about being human is that we have the opportunity to live our life and do whatever the hell we want with it. The only down side to this is that I live in a small town in the midwest where everybody is christian. Where’s an athiest/agnostic supposed to go to talk with other people about what they do or don’t believe in? The internet! So all you Mormons stop taking offense, and just stay away from our heathen websites.

Hehehe. I’d also like to add that your sexual repression makes my life more interesting. Don’t worry, I’m doing my part to make up where you are leaving off. <sly laughter>

2004-06-25 20:03:00

I love being a heathen!

Hehehe. I’d also like to add that your sexual repression makes my life more interesting. Don’t worry, I’m doing my part to make up where you are leaving off. <sly laughter>

2004-06-25 20:07:00

Curious Sharter

I am one who is prone to “Sharting” my pants. For those of you who don’t know what “Sharting” is… it is when one tries to fart, but out comes a combination of a “sh*t” and a “fart”. So my question is… “When one who wears holy garments “Sharts” themselves, do they have to still wear them for life?” If they dare to take them off to wash them, will they be “in sin”? Or, is it better to continue wearing them and run the risk of serious anal rash?

I am truly curious!!

2004-06-28 22:05:00

JENNY

I AM TRULY SEEKING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MOROMON RELIGION—-I HAVE ONLY MET ONE MORMAN IN MY LIFE—-ON VACATION——IS IT REALLY A CULT? I JUST WANT FACTS——

2004-06-29 08:50:00

Tom

I grew up attending a LDS church with my best friend. I attended the services 3 to 1, as apposed to attending my own church.

Besides the contradictions between the Bible and BOM, the thing that kept me questioning thier religion/cult was their testimonies. I have never felt that by giving a testimony would strengthen my belief. God already knows how I feel. I pray to him and thank him for all that he has given me. It always made me wonder while sitting in the pews, that the reason testimonies were given each week were to continue convincing people to follow the mormon ways.

It has been thirty years now that my mormon buddy and I have remained friends. To this day he will not read up on the actual events that have taken place within his church. He is a great person and family man.

I am a Christian and question my faith daily. The most wonderful thing to me is that I cannot disprove anything in the bible. However, I can disprove the BOM. I only hope that God gives his blessing to open my friends heart to actually question his beliefs.

God bless! Thanks for the web site.

2004-07-09 00:17:00

Evcio Dialo

they look so sexy, does the one for the guy have a peephole for sex?

2004-07-10 20:15:00

Big M

To everyone else they are a cult. Jesus die a poor man Joe Smith was a gozillionaire. Blacks are the devil at least till the IRS threatens to lift your tax exempt staus. The only thing mormons seem to care about is making and converting people to mormons. Talk about your stepford wife. Most women are as plain jane as the underware. If you look at those garments hard enough you can almost see the padlock on her croch where his looks like a flipflap ready to do anything that walks by.

Parents keep a close eye on your kids mainly your daughters, if they can knock them up at fifteen it’s a trophy. Or marry em by eighteen, if there not married or pregnant by twenty two then their sent on a mission to find some sucker to join and then marry. Just like Aliens they get down your throat, plant an egg till it’s time for the new mormon to come ripping out of your chest.

2004-07-10 22:44:00

LDS Member

To Big M.
Mormons do not believe in premarital sex so by knocking up your daughters is just stupid and immature.

2004-07-14 18:04:00

boston

I’ll bet the Govenor looks great in these religious panties! I’ll bet that while he sits his high and mighty ass on Beacon hill hating gays wondering what they do in their bedroom that these keep his tush mighty warm. From now on I’ll picture him in these and really take him seriously! Especially when he runs for re-election!

2004-07-16 20:46:00

Kraven

Im really sorry people desecrated what is sacred for many but the day will come when we will face the LORD and his judgement will be terrible for those who mocked his work.

2004-07-19 00:09:00

becca

I have a few questions to ask about these garments if anyone knows. It seems that the male and female versions both have extra padding in areas, obviously meant for protection, but is it symbolic or an outdated mode of protecting the reproductive capacity of these areas? I have heard that married couples are blessed in the temple in these garments and the couple are required to wear them for life. Is the blessing ceremony done in the temple, while the couple wears only the garments or are the garments under the white temple clothes of the soon to be married couple? What is the blessing of the reproductive organs? I have heard that the couples reproductive organs are blessed or consecrated, what is this blessing and what is done during the service? When LDS couples marry no one outside of the LDS church may attend, I am told, is it due to these garments, for modesty or what? When are young LDS told of these garments? And how?

2004-07-22 22:11:00

Mormon-curious

I don’t understand why people must wear these garments after being married? Actually, I don’t understand why in anyone does, but I could maybe see some sort of justification for young adults to wear them. Are you telling me Mormons aren’t supposed to wear any shorts? Tank tops? What about with bathing suits? What is the whole point? Simply modesty? Covering the body?

2004-07-24 10:01:00

Mormon-curious

Being an agnostic, I do not wish harm to people of any religion, I simply have questions and curiosities regarding the practices of all different religions. I notice some Mormons, and others parties, becoming very defensive on this page, so please know that I am not here to offend. However, that being said, I must agree with an earlier comment about the secrecy of many religious rituals. If the “Mormon undergarments” weren’t so hush-hush, no one would be posting questions, asking about pictures, or posing as a member to purchase them.

If religion and religious practices were talked about more openly, people outside the religion may actually become less likely to make uneducated attacks on Mormons because they would have a better understanding. As long as the secrecy continues, the rest of the world will continue to be confused and therefore likely to strike out at what is so different and unclear.

Perhaps more of us “outsiders” would be able to understand how your beliefs were founded if members of the Mormon Church would share the prinipals and reasoning behind their beliefs. By keeping everything so secretive, others will want to know more and more. It makes people wonder what there is to hide and be ashamed of.

My main point is this: By asked the questions in the above posting, please know that I am not in any way mocking this religion, I am just curious and interested in learning.

2004-07-24 10:21:00

gayguy

you’ve never had such a hot experience as undressing a guy in mormon underwear!

2004-07-29 01:49:00

not a mormon

I am not a mormon, but do know quite a bit about the subject for reasons that are unimportant. I agree with your reasoning about how people are inquisitive, for better or worse, about things that aren’t openly discussed. It is certainly a factor in explaining why people, like the author of the post “mormon underwear is hot”, are so flippant about something that has a great importance to other people.

Additionally, though, there are other reasons. For example, although the vast majority of adults in this country know that faithful mormons do not practice polygamy, most are still very willing to make jokes or snide remarks about this association and further the bigotry that already exists. This indicates that other reasons must exist for the kind of comments people make.

To answer your question, people who wear these garments do so as a personal and private practice. Just as most of us don’t go around talking about what kind of underwear we are wearing on any particular day, it’s not something that is talked about. Additionally, they are reminders of the wearer’s relationship with god and there is nothing more sinister or mysterious about this practice than that of a good catholic wearing a necklace with a cross under her blouse.

If you have questions about specific instances where the garments are or are not worn, look over the posts already made or ask someone who wears them personally— they will be glad to answer you.

I wish I had time to respond to more comments made here. If anyone is interested in continuing an open-minded debate/question-answer session with a non-religious person who has respect for others’ beliefs (me) please respond to this post. Thanks.

2004-07-29 22:57:00

dan from Palmyra, NY

Thy garments are HOT. The girl turns me on. Why did’st thou not show her face? Never thou mindest, she is still hot in the robes of rightousness! If she is married, can she marry two men? She is quite the cookie!!!

2004-08-04 21:17:00

Anonymous

yeah.….

2004-08-07 19:21:00

eduardo the mexican

show me what you write I’ll tell you what you are

2004-08-08 23:17:00

B-Dub

I’m of Native American descent and the next time a Mormon comes knocking on my door I’m going to kick their ass.

2004-08-10 19:27:00

Anonymous

I had sex with God. Oh yeah, and Joseph Smith too. Good times.

2004-08-11 22:02:00

victims of mormon

you mormonies,killing my family.The book of mormon is all satan mystical turth.

2004-08-12 00:33:00

somalia selfrespect

y in hell do u want somalia nude pic
bytch we aon’t as naked ass as ur ppl
if u r a somalian person then fuck u if u r a white trash fuck u too slut cu zu ain’t never gonna find them

2004-08-15 18:33:00

dan from Palmyra, NY

Somalia is good! No fat folk there! Why dont you start some irrespective molehill of this, somalia SR?

The boy is good as well even if he doth be married I could like him too. I knowest that he can marry thrice or more!

Go Bite Somalia, thou hast a White Folk problem dont, you!

2004-08-19 19:10:00

Gaynor

Wow, SOme divese comments. One thing I must point out with regard to the Penecostal girl in question. We all have the same God, some of us just don’t realize it. People should practice whatever faith gets him or her closer to God and Truth.

2004-08-23 19:54:00

andre

people, don’t u have anything better to do other than disrespect mormon beliefs. You all believe in somenthing bigger, so just let us “mormons” believe in anything we want. It’s just stupid that you americans consider yourselves better than everyone else, but discuss stupid stuff. Why not comment about the deaths that Bush is responsable for… oops, I’m sorry, that’s your culture poke in other peoples’ business!!!!

2004-09-05 14:01:00

Grimace

HOT SEXY MODELS — THOSE MORMONS ARE KINKY

xxx,
GRIMACE

2004-09-07 21:30:00

Mormon Preist

SUPER HOT

2004-09-07 21:33:00

Frank

http://www.mormoninfo.org

2004-09-07 22:58:00

da man

im seeing alot of people saying mormons are bad but i dont see anyone proving or having proof that mormons and what they do is bad. one guy said utah is a satanic state but i drove through utah and didnt see any satanic stuff. i just dont understand.
catholi